Copy of document 3719-PS
Testimony of: Alfred Rosenberg taken at: Nurnberg, Germany. 1500-1700, 6 October 1945 by: Lt. Col. Thomas S. Hinkel, IGD, OUSCC. Also Present: Interpreter: 1st. Lt. Joachim Stenzel; Reporter: Pvt. Clair A. VanVleck.
[Page 3] Q. Isn’t it a fact, that Sauckel would allocate to the various areas under your jurisdiction, the number of persons to be obtained for labor purposes? A. Yes. Q. And that thereafter, your agents would obtain that labor, in order to meet the quota that had been given; isn’t that right? A. Sauckel, normally, had very far-reaching desires, which one couldn’t fulfill unless one looked very closely into the matter. Q. Never mind about Sauckel’s desires being far-reaching or not being far-reaching. That has nothing to do with it. You were given quotas for the areas over which you had jurisdiction, and it was up to you to meet that quota? A. Yes; it was the responsibility of the administrative officials to receive this quota and to distribute the allotments over the districts in such a way, according to number and according to the age groups, so they would be most reasonably met. Q. These administrative officials were part of your organization; isn’t that right? [Page 437] A. They were functionaries or officials of the Reichskommissar for the Ukraine, but, as such, they were placed in their office by the Ministry for the Eastern Occupied Territories. Q. You recognized, did you not, that the quotas set by Sauckel could not be filled by voluntary labor, and you didn’t disapprove of the impressment of forced labor; isn’t that right? A. I regretted that the demands of Sauckel were so urgent that they could not be met by a continuation of voluntary recruitments and thus I submitted to the necessity of forced impressment. Q. Did you ever argue with Sauckel, that perhaps, in view of the fact that the quotas could not be met by voluntary labor, the labor recruiting program be abandoned except for what recruits could be voluntarily enrolled? A. I couldn’t do that, because the numbers or allotments that Sauckel had received from the Fuehrer to meet, were absolutely binding for him, and I couldn’t do anything about that. [Page 5] Q. The letters that we have already seen between you and Sauckel, do not indicate, do they, any disagreement on your part with the principle of recruiting labor against their will; they indicate, as I remember, that you were opposed to the treatment that was later accorded these workers; that you did not oppose their initial impressment. A. That is right. In those letters I mostly discussed the possibility of finding the least harsh methods of handling the matter; whereas, in no way, I placed myself in opposition to the orders that he was carrying out for the Fuehrer. [Page 7] Q. Do you recall receiving a letter from Sauckel in March, 1943, wherein he stated that approximately 1,000,000 foreign workers would be needed from the East, and that this 1,000,000 had to be transported within the space of four months from the date of the letter? A. That is perfectly possible. Sauckel, in the course of his activities, as being specifically charged by the Fuehrer, has at several times transmitted to the ministry quotas of the men that had to be furnished. Q. When these quotas were transmitted by Sauckel, did your organization then parcel the quotas out in the various places over which you had jurisdiction? A. Normally, when such a request for a quota came in, there would be meetings between representatives of Sauckel’s staff and of my staff and, occasionally, of the staff of the commissars, [Page 438] in which these matters were hashed over, and, normally, I would say that, in view of the particular situation, it would be absolutely impossible to meet that particular number, but that we would try to see what could be done and never would we meet the entire quota that was given to us. Q. But you did your best to meet it, didn’t you? A. It was their duty to do whatever they could.